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  • pappu
    02-25 09:43 AM
    I am surprised...why IV is not raising this.. The fundamental issues of EB immigration wont' be solved until CIR happens and that could take forever. No one cares about immigration right now.. The only thing that can provide immediate relief for EB immigrants is if we express our desire to buy houses(unable to do so becoz of lack of GC).

    Wakup IV!..where art thou'

    We already ran a campaign http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21665
    How many of you took part in it?

    There was a funding drive recently and also in the last quarter of 2008. Total contributions in the last 6 months have been too little to engage in a full fledged lobbying effort on any issue. Despite that we pushed through.

    Before we start blaming IV core, let us see if we are all ready to take part in IV action items. If people do not take part in any action item and support IV en masse then success will be hard to come by.





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  • DallasBlue
    09-27 02:32 PM
    why useless stoppers ? something more useful!!

    Lets send flowers again !!





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  • saggi13
    07-25 02:56 PM
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  • wandmaker
    06-12 08:55 PM
    Most of the IVans have given good suggestions though no one is a pro on domestic violence case. We are not in stone age - Personally, I dont like any kind of violence against women including the people who does. I think you should get a good attorney, prove that you are innocent and move on.

    Guys! Stop responding to this thread and make this disappear.



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  • abhijitp
    03-11 03:57 PM
    Sure, your point is very much valid. What I understand from the Freakenomics experiment and EB3I behavior with respect to IV is that only a few folks have the perseverance to go all the way from D to B.

    Take 100 folks with C grade and give them the $50 offer for B. May be 80% will reach that goal. (I do not recall the actual results of the experiment).

    Take 100 folks with D grade and give them the $50 offer for B. Ideally we should see 80% of folks improving their grade to a C (one level up). But in real life only may be half as much (40%) will actually improve their grades to a C.

    An important difference here is, no matter how many participate in this campaign in DC, we all move up a grade at some point.

    We will all move a few years sooner if we try, and years later if nobody tries anything. (But we will still move!)

    Folks just need to decide: what's more preferable? Slower of faster?





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  • senthil1
    04-29 11:30 AM
    If point sysem is introduced the big losers are immigration lawyers as they cannot make money in multiple stages. So no wonder if they oppose. Of course there is some limitations but its sucess depends on rules and regulations. Also there is going to be a Cap and there is going to be a provision to prevent displacement of US workers as the worldwide demand is always here. But main advantage is it will bring down the work load of various agencies like DOL and INS also employers.

    the reason why we will not find justice is that our suffering is creating profits for the people with power and who vote.

    your freedom is reduction in their profits. exactly the slave-master thinking. they will try their best to delay your freedom.

    at my last employer (a large, respectable financial firm), they kept saying "GC next year" till they said "GC last months of 5th year". I was just a few months from that time, but i quit them in disgust anyway. doing GC with them would have meant another 5-6 years with those creeps.

    this is classic zero-sum thinking. you'll see it everywhere in the US. you just have to be sharper at seeing politics. only you can protect your interests.

    my advice to IV is to associate with some labour union. those guys are corrupt, but at least they have some power.



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  • EkAurAaya
    05-14 05:20 PM
    Can someone please advice pros and cons, keeping in mind the forward movement of priority dates could be just for the month of June!

    My 140 is still pending in NSC I have the option to quicky upgrade that to premium and then go for CP, what would be the course of action?

    Also what are the wait times for CP in Mumbai India?

    Thanks!

    May we all get outa this mess :cool: and move on with life!
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    COMPARISON OF ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS VERSUS CONSULAR PROCESSING


    The purpose of this page is to address the advantages and disadvantages of Adjustment of Status and Consular Processing. There are various factors that need to be considered, including the procedures, the cost, the time and the risks involved in each process.

    I. TIME
    Generally, Adjustment of Status Applications take about 12-15 months to be approved by the INS. In most cases, Consular Processing takes approximately 6 to 9 months, depending on which US Consulate is chosen.

    II. CONSULATE NOTIFICATION
    The decision to consular process often turns on the issue of whether the overseas consulate will accept an application without notification from the INS via the National Visa Center (NVC). At present only a handful of Consulates will accept such an application. The usual course calls for the INS to send notice of the approval of the I-140 to the NVC in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, which then notifies the particular consulate.


    From time to time, an I-824 is required in order to Consular Process. In these scenarios, Consular processing takes in excess of one year and is almost never a good option. Because some consulates are realizing that the I-824 processing times at the Service Centers are unreasonably lengthy, several Consulates have opted to allow consular processing in their discretion without the requirement of the notification from the NVC. Under this process, the AC I-140 (attorney certified I-140), the attorney directly sends the Consulate a certified copy of the I-140 approval notice.


    There are a few things to keep in mind if you choose the AC I-140 process. First, not all consulates recognize it. Second, some Consulates may later switch to an approach where they demand the I-824. Third, some of the consulates who do accept ACI-140 do so only on grounds of hardship, such as the aging out of a child.

    III. 180 DAY PORTABILITY RULE
    Persons whose I-485s have been pending at the INS for 180 days or longer are ordinarily eligible to transfer to a new employer without abandoning their I-485 Adjustment of Status Application. The rules surrounding the 180 Day Portability are new and can be complex. However, the Portability rule can provide great relief to employees who are concerned that future lay-offs or Reductions In Force may cause their permanent Residency Applications to fail. Because of several liberalized I-485 rules, it usually a poor choice to opt for Consular Processing.

    IV. LOCAL ISSUES
    Each consulate has its own nuances. Most U.S. Consulates require police certificates for all applicants 16 years or older covering all periods that they have resided in a foreign country. This requirement does not exist in the case of adjustment of status. The consular officers also require a certified copy of any military records, whereas this is not required in adjustment of status applications. The consulate in Manila will only accept birth certificates issued by the National Statistics Office. A person who does not have all the documents at the time of the interview will need to appear for a second interview.


    In all cases however, the medical exams have to be completed by a designated doctor in that country. In London, the medical exams are completed the same day as the interview. However, in Johannesburg, Chennai, and Mumbai, the medical exams have to be completed at least two weeks before the interview. Essentially, this means the employee will need to spend approximately three weeks overseas or will require two trips overseas.


    In most cases, interview notices are generated approximately 30 days prior to the actual interview. As a practical matter, families need to depart the U.S. immediately upon receipt of an interview notice in order to have plenty of time to complete the medical exam.


    In addition to the general procedural differences between the two processes, there are more stringent requirements in consular processing. For example, it is generally easier to obtain waivers of certain medical grounds for exclusion, such as HIV, if you are Adjusting.

    V. COSTS
    Another issue that should be analyzed is the cost associated with each process. The major monetary difference is travel costs. Plainly, you only need to pay for a flight overseas if you are Consular processing. This can be burdensome and costly where there are several family members.


    Another factor that may indirectly affect the costs to the employer and employee is the time that will be required to be spent outside of the United States. During the adjustment of status process, a person can continue their employment in the United States while the case is processing. In consular processing cases, they are required to be out of the U.S. for approximately a month, assuming no problems arise in their case. If problems do arise in their case, they may need to stay overseas longer than anticipated. Alternatively, they could, in most cases, come back to the U.S. but would need to travel to the consulate again for a follow-up interview. Obviously, this adds to additional time away from work and additional expenses. In addition, for employees who have school age children, this would require the child's absence from school.

    VI. RISKS
    The major factor in deciding whether to choose adjustment of status or consular processing is the risk involved. By far, consular processing is much more risky than the adjustment of status process. First, consular processing provides less opportunity for attorney assistance. In the adjustment of status process, the attorneys prepare the application and file it with the INS. If the INS has a Request for Additional Evidence or any issues in the case, the information is sent to the attorney at which time the attorney can review the issues with the client and submit a response. In consular processing, the consulates do not allow the person to be represented by an attorney during the interview. Sometimes the attorney can stay in the waiting room and address any questions that the applicant has, but is not allowed to actually represent them at the interview.


    Second, consular processing involves a personal interview whereas the adjustment of status does not. Of course, any time that there is a personal interview, there is more risk that the applicant will say something unfavorable to his case. It also provides the officer with more time to go in depth into the applicant's immigration history or any issues of excludability. For example, if the employee's job title or job duties have changed at all since the filing of the labor certification then there is more of a chance that the consulate will focus on this issue and could deny the application. In contrast, in adjustment of status the INS does not delve into the exact job duties, (e.g. specific tools, utilities, software) but rather focuses on the job title, salary, and whether there is a continued offer of employment.


    Third, consular officers sometimes work with a mindset of distrust because they are accustomed to seeing fraudulent cases. Keep in mind that Manila, Mumbai, and Chennai are high fraud posts.


    Fourth, anyone who has been unlawfully present in the United States and is subject to the 3/10 year bar would immediately trigger that bar once he departed the U.S. Clearly, a person in this situation should not even consider consular processing as such as decision would be fatal.


    Finally, and most importantly, a denial of a visa at a Consulate post cannot be appealed.

    VII. EMPLOYMENT FOR SPOUSES
    Spouses can obtain employment authorization while their Application for Adjustment of Status is pending at the INS. They are ineligible for work authorization while their Consular Processing Application is pending.

    VIII. CONCLUSION
    In sum, consular processing can be advantageous in some situations. However, the decision to do consular processing should be made on a case-by-case basis based upon the particular consulate and the facts of each case. Ordinarily, Adjustment of Status is the better approach.





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  • GCNirvana007
    08-25 01:34 PM
    I went thru TSC-EAC-TSC cycle. I did quite a bit of research online :) and found they did approve those cases, if PD is current. So, that shouldnt be a hurdle. Key is make sure you have all the checks are passed and current.

    Well, there you go. Good news to sdrblr.





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  • pappu
    05-27 02:15 PM
    We anticipated such bills from various interest groups: nurses bill, Ag Jobs bill etc are also introduced. Watch out for CIR developments at this time.



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  • frankiesaysrelax
    12-31 10:42 AM
    When my H1 was pending, I got a 3 month extension based on the receipt notice and a letter from my company. The DMV needs to see your original I-94 which is expiring or expired to ensure that the entry to the country was legal. This was at the Trenton DMV.

    BTW, NJ DMV also tries to interpret immigration laws, incorrectly in my opinion. When I and my wife went back to renew again beyond the 3 month period, I was not carrying my H1 approval notice while my wife was carrying her H4 approval notice (longer story, not relevant). The DMV refused to renew her's based on *her* approval notice saying "She is H4 and she is a dependent". We probably need a immigration lawyer with us to get our driver's license now. In the end, I used my EAD along with SSN proof and we both got our licenses renewed. But otherwise the Trenton DMV is very helpful and seem to understand the immigration documents very well. Also if anybody is visiting the Trenton DMV specifically, if you dont have the SSN card with you, the SSN office is a only a short distance away and you can get a printout from the SSN office verifying your SS#. Printed directions courtesy the DMV staff.

    I distinctly felt unwelcome in this country having seen other times when renewing a license was not such a hassle. This is the twilight zone for people who are genuine and caught in the immigration whirlpool.





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  • walking_dude
    09-22 02:10 PM
    Let me be objective, as much I can be, here.

    ....there would have been more than 2,000 in DC.........but clearly they did not.......i was willing to give it a shot - but unfortunately could not and did not want to specifically postpone something else to make it to DC.......




    Dear Sir, you didn't attend ,thinking that it was unworthy of postphoning a meeting. And yet you lament not more than 2,000 attended.

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such statements.




    .........those were different times and different issues.........colonialism, racial discrimination etc........who would employ us in the future...in Gandhi's days - they did not have electronic background checks......!!




    The core issue is the same, back then and today - fight against Injustice, ill-treatment of human beings by Government.

    Here's why Gandhi inspires people like me in our struggle.

    "BE the change you'd like to see in the World" ( Gandhi's polite way of saying - cribbing doesn't help. Do it yourself, or ....)

    He also said - " It's a bigger sin to suffer injustice than committing it" . [ He wasn't appreciative about Do-Nothings. Not at all. He called them the "greater sinners", as their silence encourages even more injustice]

    I agree with you on one thing though. Gandhis struggle was bigger than ours. Ours is nothing compared to it - You talk of no "background checks" in Gandhis time... when people used to be beaten on their head for marching peacefully. Many of them would bleed to death. Our struggle may be inspired by Gandhiji, but we will never be able to match the sacrifices made by othose martyrs. We may be inspired by Gandhis principles, but we can never be the Gandhi.

    But the least we can do to respect that great man, is to follow some of his principles (like those stated above) in to our daily lives. Is that too much to ask?





    Another take - if US can have an endless source of temporary workers coming in, paying into income tax and social security taxes and medicare taxes for a few years......and going back without claiming a single dime of social benefits......its the best possible situation for US....a forever young, qualified, minimum wages (i.e prevailing wages) earning tax paying transient population supporting/ subsidizing an archaic and otherwise struggling social security and healthcare system.


    Another of those arm-chair conspiracy theories. Knowledge retention is critical to companys success. A guy fresh out of college is never equivalent a guy with several years of experience in the same field. Dollar value is dropping, Rupee is rising, salaries in India are rising. If people cannot get GC in a short period of time, there would very little incentive in coming and working here. As you must be aware most H1s these days are used to outsource work to India (by Infy and others), and not to get people to work permanently here. I suggest you read the Kauffman report thoroughly to understand the situation.


    .....to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC. Are we here to improve america's competitiveness (if that was the primary purpose of our coming here - shame on us for not staying back and improving our respective motherlands' competitiveness) or our own future - if the latter - lets call a spade a spade.........


    I admire your gall in dismissing us as shameless, self-serving, unpatriotic liars,in polite words of course , while doing absolutely nothing to help our cause.

    Let me put this politely. "Don't do unto others, what you don't want others do unto you". Don't cast aspersions others, if you don't others to cast aspersions on you.


    so - whats the "so what" from my post? is it to critique what IV is doing - no! The "so what" is - unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!



    Dear Sir, what do YOU suggest that we do? You think peaceful rallies won't work. On the one hand, you suggest only disobedience movement will work. On the other, you scare us ,saying if we do that we are in deep-six.

    In other words, you'd have us 'Do Nothing At All', and hope that our issues will vanish miraculously by the magic of Harry Potter.

    Dear Sir, you deserve a Noble prize for your theories



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  • vsrinir
    09-23 01:13 PM
    http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html





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  • pappu
    01-22 11:07 AM
    This Tracker facility we have in IV is good. Kudos to the Admin team who implemented this thing.

    These are my observations. I could be grossly mistaken. Pardon me if I am wrong.

    There are approximately 26,000 people who have put in their priority dates and other such data in the tracker. When I compared similar cases, I got some 265 who were EB3 India with a priority date in 2002. That is approximately 1 %, give or take.

    Here I have ignored EB3 India 2001 guys. But that number would be very less I believe.

    1% of 400k is 4000 which is what USCIS issues GC for EB3 India in a year.

    Does that mean I could get my GC this year.

    Hope these numbers are right.

    We are going to clean up data further in the coming weeks. People who have missing fields may not be part of the tracker etc. The analysis will also be expanded to give more representation of the data from all angles. We are also working on some more features in the tracker that will make it really informative. At this time we are waiting for everyone to input their data or update their data and also get others who do not have a profile on IV to come here and input their data. Please help us in this task and bring everyone to IV tracker. Once we have more data that can help us represent a better % of the overall actual applications in USCIS data, the analysis will be much better. At a later stage we are thinking of bringing some statistics experts on board to create monthly analysis of the data and publish report for our members.



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  • GCKaMaara
    04-07 10:57 AM
    SVN,

    One irrelevant question: Why did you wait till Aug 15th, 2007 to file your 485 when your date was current in June and you could file in June 2007?





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  • h1bmajdoor
    10-13 04:21 PM
    It was a great meeting. I was blown over by the enthusiasm of the folks. It was intended to be a casual get together, but beyond a point it became more serious:D We did have action items and we will communicate it through emails, we cannot post such things on public forum. We are working on the next event planning once we finalize the place and time we will get in touch with U.

    can you hold these meetings on saturdays? weekdays are impossible for me with a 1.5 hr commute (common with most tri-state folks).

    informal get togethers can be held at the flushing hindu center on sunday evening, at least for those who are hindus living in queens. (the majority here, i guess)



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  • Openarms
    06-02 05:40 PM
    We got heavy weights here supporting this bill... Kennedy and Schumer.. IV fights for all immigration issues, but not for this... then whom IV fighting for???





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  • frankiesaysrelax
    11-05 10:23 PM
    Can the wire transfer be requested online using ICICI's(or HDFC's) website ? Or do you need personnally do it from India ?


    In my case, the request was processed at the local branch. I don't recall seeing an option on ICICI to do the wire transfer. But assuming there is, you should give that a shot. You might have better luck at the branch though .... RBI has the so called KYC - Know Your Customer rules for all banks and that may give you some leeway.





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  • xu1
    04-26 08:47 AM
    Let's do it..





    nonimmi
    09-05 04:40 PM
    Those who are using EAD have to use AP, as H1 is no longer valid!! This whole correct/incorrect thing is useless as these rules were made when AOS processing time was less than a year. People with older PD who dont expect to get GC in coming 2-3 years and already working using EAD have to use AP. This was even the case when H1 used to be valid for six year only and once someone got EAD/AP they were using it happily during 2004-2005.





    Caliber
    04-02 02:40 PM
    ...$100. Good Luck for everything and keep the Faith! :)

    Thank you so much mantagon. A ray of hope in between such stupid posts.

    God bless you.