svn
04-08 12:01 PM
SVN,
One irrelevant question: Why did you wait till Aug 15th, 2007 to file your 485 when your date was current in June and you could file in June 2007?
Just noticed your question - I was actually one of those stuck in the notorious BEC. As luck would have it, my Labor cert which had been stuck in local office processing first and finally made it to the second stage of labor was stuck there as well for months until it seemed like they finally were processing applications that had been received at the same time as mine. Then it happened - all labor processing centers were scrapped and everything was shipped in boxes to the blackhole called BEC. Little did I know then the upfront delay of months would be insignificant compared to the delay of almost 4 years at the BEC. In fact, my labor cert hadn't been processed by BEC even when the Jun 07 window opened up. As luck would have it though, in the month when everything was rolled back, my labor was finally cleared (thank god for small mercies!) and I was able to apply for both I-140 and I-485 when the window opened back up temporarily between July 30th and Aug 17th. Of course, I am still last in the line since USCIS processes based on application received data and not priority date! However, as I mentioned earlier, I am thankful to all of the efforts of IV that led to the window opening back up, which actually enabled me to file my I-485 and eventually receive an EAD (if not, would have still bee completely dependant on H-1, 11th year, now)
One irrelevant question: Why did you wait till Aug 15th, 2007 to file your 485 when your date was current in June and you could file in June 2007?
Just noticed your question - I was actually one of those stuck in the notorious BEC. As luck would have it, my Labor cert which had been stuck in local office processing first and finally made it to the second stage of labor was stuck there as well for months until it seemed like they finally were processing applications that had been received at the same time as mine. Then it happened - all labor processing centers were scrapped and everything was shipped in boxes to the blackhole called BEC. Little did I know then the upfront delay of months would be insignificant compared to the delay of almost 4 years at the BEC. In fact, my labor cert hadn't been processed by BEC even when the Jun 07 window opened up. As luck would have it though, in the month when everything was rolled back, my labor was finally cleared (thank god for small mercies!) and I was able to apply for both I-140 and I-485 when the window opened back up temporarily between July 30th and Aug 17th. Of course, I am still last in the line since USCIS processes based on application received data and not priority date! However, as I mentioned earlier, I am thankful to all of the efforts of IV that led to the window opening back up, which actually enabled me to file my I-485 and eventually receive an EAD (if not, would have still bee completely dependant on H-1, 11th year, now)
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gc_chahiye
07-02 02:11 AM
You can find the link on the US Consulate website for Mumbai, under appointment information.
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/interview_appt_schedule.html
here's the one for July [PDF]
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/uploads/images/9uRZDUAnEBKVs3LMDSI0ug/apptjuly07.pdf
yes tons of EB3s and just 2 EB2s. I guess this, and the information on trackers would make us think USCIS has cleaned up tons of EB3s from 2001-2003. I wish hey had cleaned up EB3-ROW too, so numbers from there can roll over into India...
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/interview_appt_schedule.html
here's the one for July [PDF]
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/uploads/images/9uRZDUAnEBKVs3LMDSI0ug/apptjuly07.pdf
yes tons of EB3s and just 2 EB2s. I guess this, and the information on trackers would make us think USCIS has cleaned up tons of EB3s from 2001-2003. I wish hey had cleaned up EB3-ROW too, so numbers from there can roll over into India...
Aah_GC
10-03 11:31 PM
Guys.. my kind request - keep up your hopes and let's dream for the best. Dont get lost in what went wrong and what is going to be wrong. Be the change you want to see. Do everything you can to support the bills, and have fun in life. Not for a moment - be unhappy.
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PD_Dec2002
03-17 03:36 PM
There is already a thread open that aims to achieve similar results: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17660
I agree with what most of the people here have said. The US economy is in a bigger hole and people buying houses isn't going to save it. It is going to take some creative and strict solutions from the Fed and the Govt to get the economy out of this mess.
Regards,
Jayant
I agree with what most of the people here have said. The US economy is in a bigger hole and people buying houses isn't going to save it. It is going to take some creative and strict solutions from the Fed and the Govt to get the economy out of this mess.
Regards,
Jayant
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485Mbe4001
05-13 03:50 PM
EB migration was a added almost as an after thought to the family based immigration bill. Current or future considerations were not taken into account when they wrote the bill, the prime focus was (is and will be) the family based immigration as they get the most votes, they have the most 'heartbreaking' stories. I understand your point. I also dont want to argue about how USCIS distributes overflow. I have been dealt a hand i am dealing with it.
I do want to say that nothing will happen unless you make efforts to make it happen. We need to talk to the lawmakers about our problems. Half of them still think we are talking about H1 and launch into a spin about outsourcing. The H1 lobby has major companies backing them, anti immigration groups are flush with cash and are very vocal. Hispanic caucus is a big group. What about us, do we just keep discussing issues or try to educate people on our problems...if we dont we will stay a minority with no voice, simply pawns used and abused by others.
As I see, most of you are missing the point. Instead of trying to understand, you showing the maturity of mind. The whole purpose of EB immigration is to meet the Demand(Job opportunities) vs the supply(immediately available candidates).
When there are a lot of opportunities exists for EB3 level(skilled profession) and less opportunities exists for EB1(Ph.D/Executive Director), USCIS should give more no. of Visas to EB3, then EB1.
A country cannot be built with only the kings, and not even a home can be built with only Ph.Ds(Nobody do the dishes).
I do want to say that nothing will happen unless you make efforts to make it happen. We need to talk to the lawmakers about our problems. Half of them still think we are talking about H1 and launch into a spin about outsourcing. The H1 lobby has major companies backing them, anti immigration groups are flush with cash and are very vocal. Hispanic caucus is a big group. What about us, do we just keep discussing issues or try to educate people on our problems...if we dont we will stay a minority with no voice, simply pawns used and abused by others.
As I see, most of you are missing the point. Instead of trying to understand, you showing the maturity of mind. The whole purpose of EB immigration is to meet the Demand(Job opportunities) vs the supply(immediately available candidates).
When there are a lot of opportunities exists for EB3 level(skilled profession) and less opportunities exists for EB1(Ph.D/Executive Director), USCIS should give more no. of Visas to EB3, then EB1.
A country cannot be built with only the kings, and not even a home can be built with only Ph.Ds(Nobody do the dishes).
karthiknv143
05-13 02:53 PM
Take it easy!, EB2 India is going to meet the same fate next month. Based on our recent discussions with DOS.
Looks like all fingers at you for more detailed information on your transcripts :)
regarding EB2.
Looks like all fingers at you for more detailed information on your transcripts :)
regarding EB2.
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mpadapa
10-09 01:57 PM
count me in.. I might be slightly late..
I'll try to sneak out of office early:D
So mpdapa can we expect you on Friday ?
I'll try to sneak out of office early:D
So mpdapa can we expect you on Friday ?
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aadimanav
08-22 10:42 PM
I didn't think my answers were making fun or teasing anyone - sorry if you felt that way, I didn't mean them to be interpreted like that.
The main problem is that no one really knows for sure whether these steps are taken in sequence. There is little to no transparency. There are procedures, but we can not guarantee that they are followed.
To answer your second part. No, I don't believe there are any standard updates that indicate this, but I could be wrong. I think that there is an update if you clear it, but not if you are stuck in it. Make sense? Pappu has an excellent post that details the name check process http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12000
To answer nlssubbu with the query about the "pre-approval" - I don't think it is a 1 time thing. Its a fairly standard USCIS practice. I have a link somewhere to the IO AOS processing manual. If I can find it I'll post it here.
Do I think they have enough resources to process them all? Absolutely not, but I doubt there will be a rush considering PDs won't be current for a while (esp eb3)
Thank you.
The main problem is that no one really knows for sure whether these steps are taken in sequence. There is little to no transparency. There are procedures, but we can not guarantee that they are followed.
To answer your second part. No, I don't believe there are any standard updates that indicate this, but I could be wrong. I think that there is an update if you clear it, but not if you are stuck in it. Make sense? Pappu has an excellent post that details the name check process http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12000
To answer nlssubbu with the query about the "pre-approval" - I don't think it is a 1 time thing. Its a fairly standard USCIS practice. I have a link somewhere to the IO AOS processing manual. If I can find it I'll post it here.
Do I think they have enough resources to process them all? Absolutely not, but I doubt there will be a rush considering PDs won't be current for a while (esp eb3)
Thank you.
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gk_2000
04-21 03:12 PM
Whether we like it or not...this is a reality.
Have to agree.. there are many threads that complain that parents B1 got rejected when they said they were going to see newborn grandchild
Have to agree.. there are many threads that complain that parents B1 got rejected when they said they were going to see newborn grandchild
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micofrost
05-06 07:44 PM
Guys!!!
No point in showing frustration. Its not our birth right. We all were well educated before we came in here. Situation changes. And system makes an adjustment. Dont blame your country( I am also from India), for no one asked us to move out. There are so many nice positions available to work for. More than 80% of us found here a better oppurtunity, because there were no competition at all in getting jobs. 1st come 1st serve.
So do not complain. They do not have any urgency to hand us over the GCs. We can only request them to do the needful on the basis of our sorry state of affairs. Again, we are still at their mecrcy.
So stop complaining. Either wait and support IV or boot out.
No point in showing frustration. Its not our birth right. We all were well educated before we came in here. Situation changes. And system makes an adjustment. Dont blame your country( I am also from India), for no one asked us to move out. There are so many nice positions available to work for. More than 80% of us found here a better oppurtunity, because there were no competition at all in getting jobs. 1st come 1st serve.
So do not complain. They do not have any urgency to hand us over the GCs. We can only request them to do the needful on the basis of our sorry state of affairs. Again, we are still at their mecrcy.
So stop complaining. Either wait and support IV or boot out.
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apt7
05-24 01:51 PM
If such a bill is implemented we all should knock the doors of judiciary department. Each is department is independent of itself.
Bad for consulting companies (no H1B; may lose job)
Bad for physicians (no H1B for medical residents; no provisions for NIW...terrible)
Bad for H1b transfers and extensions (severe restrictive provisions on H1B)
AC 21 repealed (disastrous)
Bad for pending I 140 .... left in limbo
Bad for pending LC .... left in complete limbo
Bad for retrogressed.... backlog will increase phenomenally 'cos of decreased visa numbers
This bill is a massive attack on us; we should put all our efforts to oppose and kill the bill. There is little chance that we can get amendments to reverse the potential damage that this bill can do... that is disaster for us.
Bad for consulting companies (no H1B; may lose job)
Bad for physicians (no H1B for medical residents; no provisions for NIW...terrible)
Bad for H1b transfers and extensions (severe restrictive provisions on H1B)
AC 21 repealed (disastrous)
Bad for pending I 140 .... left in limbo
Bad for pending LC .... left in complete limbo
Bad for retrogressed.... backlog will increase phenomenally 'cos of decreased visa numbers
This bill is a massive attack on us; we should put all our efforts to oppose and kill the bill. There is little chance that we can get amendments to reverse the potential damage that this bill can do... that is disaster for us.
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lazycis
05-01 09:24 PM
Actually...with India growing up fast....i do not know if I am wasting time here.....want to go back .....
If there is no growth in India...then it makes sense to stay here....
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/countrylisting.html
GDP - per capita: India $2,700, US - $46,000
GDP total: $1.09 trillion v. $13.79 trillion
Inflation rate: 5.9% v. 2.7%
growth rate: 8.5% v. 2.2%
It may make sense for you, I am not completely aware of the situation in India. I agree that the situation with GC is bad for EB3 India, but I think there are plenty of opportunities here as well. Just do not base your decision on emotions, keep your cool...
If there is no growth in India...then it makes sense to stay here....
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/countrylisting.html
GDP - per capita: India $2,700, US - $46,000
GDP total: $1.09 trillion v. $13.79 trillion
Inflation rate: 5.9% v. 2.7%
growth rate: 8.5% v. 2.2%
It may make sense for you, I am not completely aware of the situation in India. I agree that the situation with GC is bad for EB3 India, but I think there are plenty of opportunities here as well. Just do not base your decision on emotions, keep your cool...
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RandyK
10-05 10:19 AM
Finally some positive news
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JunRN
12-19 02:01 PM
Mine is just 4 days.
Nov. 23 - Card Production
Nov. 27 - Approval Notice Sent
Nov. 28 - Card in the mailbox
Nov. 23 - Card Production
Nov. 27 - Approval Notice Sent
Nov. 28 - Card in the mailbox
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grupak
12-17 12:37 PM
I have pledged on the funding drive thread to pay $20 monthly through paypal (I have also made one time contribution to the fund drive).
I am writing this to encourage others to send their monthly payment through paypal for amounts less than $50 if you want to. Monthly payments help plan things better for IV.
Question to the core, if you feel $20 per month through paypal is too much overhead for IV, I can collect my monthly payments and make onetime contributions instead. Its minimal effort for me either way, really.
I am writing this to encourage others to send their monthly payment through paypal for amounts less than $50 if you want to. Monthly payments help plan things better for IV.
Question to the core, if you feel $20 per month through paypal is too much overhead for IV, I can collect my monthly payments and make onetime contributions instead. Its minimal effort for me either way, really.
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Pineapple
04-26 08:15 AM
I think we should encourage members/readers to e-mail this article to others, even though it might be have been read by everyone.
The reason is that headlines change every day, and are easily forgotten, but the "Most e-mailed" section is quite persistent.. Plus, many regular readers of WP (like me), simply jump to the "most e-mailed" section directly to check out the most interesting stories.. Also, the rank and durability of an article in the "most emailed" section is a direct measure of the perceived impact of an article.. making sure this article stay there is therefore very important.
Maybe we should have a separate thread requesting members to email article from WP's website?
The reason is that headlines change every day, and are easily forgotten, but the "Most e-mailed" section is quite persistent.. Plus, many regular readers of WP (like me), simply jump to the "most e-mailed" section directly to check out the most interesting stories.. Also, the rank and durability of an article in the "most emailed" section is a direct measure of the perceived impact of an article.. making sure this article stay there is therefore very important.
Maybe we should have a separate thread requesting members to email article from WP's website?
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nkavjs
08-27 10:58 PM
:p:pI am on the same boat, my application was also received 9:01 AM Fedex signed by R.Mickels. I am not sure what the hell is goin on..it's all messed up..:mad:
Well.. my sig says it all.
Pls. count me in
Well.. my sig says it all.
Pls. count me in
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realizeit
05-26 04:27 PM
Salient features of Bill: S.1085
After analyzing this bill, I found the following:
1. This bill will recapture all those unused employment based visas (gcs) from 1997 till 2008 and it will add those recaptured visas to this year's employment based quota.
2. After the passage of this bill, any unused visas will rollover to the next year. So, no more wastage of visas as we go forward.
3. Per country limit will be increased from 7% to 10%, so more folks from over subscribed countries would be able to come under the normal yearly quota.
4. We will be able to avail the benefits of the recapture after 60 days of the passage of the bill. That means, if they are able to recapture 220,000 (approx) employment based visas, the employment based category will be able to use all those after 60 days of the passage of this bill. USCIS is pre-adjudicating all I485s pending and if this bill gets passed in say for eg by October 30, almost all (80%) in this community (who filed 485) would be able get their GCs in Jan and Feb of 2010.
What makes this bill much more interesting is:
1. This is not a bill targetting the issues of Employment based category - So there won't be a huge backlash against this in the name of the economy and recession. The provisions for the employment category are just one item in this bill.
2. Family based immigration reform has a wider range of support from all kinds of groups unlike Employment based immigration reform. Just search for this bill "Reuniting Families Act" in google news and you can identify all those organizations supporting this bill (they all have a news release).
Complete Text of this Bill:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.1085:
After analyzing this bill, I found the following:
1. This bill will recapture all those unused employment based visas (gcs) from 1997 till 2008 and it will add those recaptured visas to this year's employment based quota.
2. After the passage of this bill, any unused visas will rollover to the next year. So, no more wastage of visas as we go forward.
3. Per country limit will be increased from 7% to 10%, so more folks from over subscribed countries would be able to come under the normal yearly quota.
4. We will be able to avail the benefits of the recapture after 60 days of the passage of the bill. That means, if they are able to recapture 220,000 (approx) employment based visas, the employment based category will be able to use all those after 60 days of the passage of this bill. USCIS is pre-adjudicating all I485s pending and if this bill gets passed in say for eg by October 30, almost all (80%) in this community (who filed 485) would be able get their GCs in Jan and Feb of 2010.
What makes this bill much more interesting is:
1. This is not a bill targetting the issues of Employment based category - So there won't be a huge backlash against this in the name of the economy and recession. The provisions for the employment category are just one item in this bill.
2. Family based immigration reform has a wider range of support from all kinds of groups unlike Employment based immigration reform. Just search for this bill "Reuniting Families Act" in google news and you can identify all those organizations supporting this bill (they all have a news release).
Complete Text of this Bill:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.1085:
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coolvigo
11-05 10:25 PM
Dear friend
It looks like you can show some light on my stuggle with ICICI bank to deposit money in My ICICI NRE account.
Story is like this, I went to India this summer deposited money to several mutual funds from my ICICI NRe account. One of the investment (in franklin ) was wrong by the mistake of my agent ( because US person can not invest in some of the US based mututal funds and frankln is US based fund) So I had to struggle to get money back from Franklin, as it was not proper investment ( wer mentioned NRE US based in forms, so they should have out right rejected investment, but they alloted it and then I have to fght back to get it returned)
Luckly due to my correct application I was able to get money back from franklin. they issued RS check, which I tried to deposit to my NRE account at ICICI bank. ICICI rejected check saying it is in RS. I tried to persue them it is REFUND FROM MUTUAL FUND (NRE INVESTMENT) from the same ICICI account but they still wants the proof that it NRE money. I have still this check bouncing back between me and ICCI bank. I also approached franklin to get letter. This time they have qouted some earlier RBI rule ( I have not read letter) and I am trying to redeposit that with check again.
Here in this My bigger question is we all are investing lot of Money from NRE account in Mutual funds and other investment options available to US in India as NRI. but when it comes to getting money back in our NRE account ( naturally all returns/refunds from India investment will be in RUPEES CHECKS ONLY) then we have big trouble like One I am facing right now.
SO DOES OUR INVESTMENT IS TRUELY REPRETRIABLE.
WE CAN GET OUR ORIGINAL INVESTMENT AS WELL AS GAINS ON THAT BACK TO NRE ACCOUNT OR NOT
IS IT THE ICICI BANK ONLY or ALL OTHER BANKS ARE GIVING TROUBLE wHEN WE TRY TO REDEPOSIT OUR MONEY ( in rupees) back to our NRE account.
Please explain your experiences in this regard.
If possible also provide links that talk in more details about REPRETRIABILITY OF NRE INVESTMENT
Also let me know which is best NRE bank to work with without any such hassles in India?
Dude,
ICICI sucks......i hate those guys.....their claims are big but poor banking and customer service......personally i have found SBI to be best although they are little slow.
On the top of it....sending money for investment is a bad idea......I have already lost money in it....and now facing issues getting money back.
In the whole episode, I lost so much peace of mind that money that grew in India was not worth........I guess there is a limit to what we want but greed inside us still ask us to invest.....let it be hard way....but I have learnt a lesson....if I have to live in US....it is better that I find investment opportunities here and live a "peaceful life". At the end we all need peace !!!
It looks like you can show some light on my stuggle with ICICI bank to deposit money in My ICICI NRE account.
Story is like this, I went to India this summer deposited money to several mutual funds from my ICICI NRe account. One of the investment (in franklin ) was wrong by the mistake of my agent ( because US person can not invest in some of the US based mututal funds and frankln is US based fund) So I had to struggle to get money back from Franklin, as it was not proper investment ( wer mentioned NRE US based in forms, so they should have out right rejected investment, but they alloted it and then I have to fght back to get it returned)
Luckly due to my correct application I was able to get money back from franklin. they issued RS check, which I tried to deposit to my NRE account at ICICI bank. ICICI rejected check saying it is in RS. I tried to persue them it is REFUND FROM MUTUAL FUND (NRE INVESTMENT) from the same ICICI account but they still wants the proof that it NRE money. I have still this check bouncing back between me and ICCI bank. I also approached franklin to get letter. This time they have qouted some earlier RBI rule ( I have not read letter) and I am trying to redeposit that with check again.
Here in this My bigger question is we all are investing lot of Money from NRE account in Mutual funds and other investment options available to US in India as NRI. but when it comes to getting money back in our NRE account ( naturally all returns/refunds from India investment will be in RUPEES CHECKS ONLY) then we have big trouble like One I am facing right now.
SO DOES OUR INVESTMENT IS TRUELY REPRETRIABLE.
WE CAN GET OUR ORIGINAL INVESTMENT AS WELL AS GAINS ON THAT BACK TO NRE ACCOUNT OR NOT
IS IT THE ICICI BANK ONLY or ALL OTHER BANKS ARE GIVING TROUBLE wHEN WE TRY TO REDEPOSIT OUR MONEY ( in rupees) back to our NRE account.
Please explain your experiences in this regard.
If possible also provide links that talk in more details about REPRETRIABILITY OF NRE INVESTMENT
Also let me know which is best NRE bank to work with without any such hassles in India?
Dude,
ICICI sucks......i hate those guys.....their claims are big but poor banking and customer service......personally i have found SBI to be best although they are little slow.
On the top of it....sending money for investment is a bad idea......I have already lost money in it....and now facing issues getting money back.
In the whole episode, I lost so much peace of mind that money that grew in India was not worth........I guess there is a limit to what we want but greed inside us still ask us to invest.....let it be hard way....but I have learnt a lesson....if I have to live in US....it is better that I find investment opportunities here and live a "peaceful life". At the end we all need peace !!!
gcdreamer05
01-14 01:09 PM
I just wish this is true and also wish that guy burger king (a.k.a steve king) does not filibuster this tooo....
msp1976
02-23 12:32 PM
This is a rough draft..I would revise again...I need to think a title too
It is that time of the year again. Immigartion reform is in the air. Recently there were raids on many businesses and arrests ensued.The Bush administration is showing its zeal to pursue the 'illegal immigrants', 'Undocumented workers'.The pro-immigration and anti-immigrantion organizations are racheting up their activities. You would hear a common refrain from the anti-immigration ideologues like 'If they want to come to this country, let them come legally'. So let's see what the people trying to immigrate legally face.
A major category of the people who immigrate to America come through a channel known as 'Employment Based' immigrants. They constituted almost 16% of the total immigrants to United States in year 2005. The immigration
process consists of three steps
1. Labor Certification - The US Department of labor administers this program. This process takes anywhere from 3 to 5 years. There are people in this queue who had applied for certfication in 2001. Now imagine waiting that long for the first step.
2. Immigrant Visa application - The US Department of State allocates a visa number to the individual.
3. Adjustment of Status - The US Citizenship and formally grants permanat resident status
The whole process can take 3 to 10 years..There are people waiting to be sure of their status for even more than that. No wonder people are coming over the border rather than waiting in this hell. Some of these people have come together to find the organization http://immigrationvoice.org/. The goals include reduced waiting time for green card applications,increased numbers for employment based green cards, ability to get certain benefits if the wait time exceeds 5 years.
It is that time of the year again. Immigartion reform is in the air. Recently there were raids on many businesses and arrests ensued.The Bush administration is showing its zeal to pursue the 'illegal immigrants', 'Undocumented workers'.The pro-immigration and anti-immigrantion organizations are racheting up their activities. You would hear a common refrain from the anti-immigration ideologues like 'If they want to come to this country, let them come legally'. So let's see what the people trying to immigrate legally face.
A major category of the people who immigrate to America come through a channel known as 'Employment Based' immigrants. They constituted almost 16% of the total immigrants to United States in year 2005. The immigration
process consists of three steps
1. Labor Certification - The US Department of labor administers this program. This process takes anywhere from 3 to 5 years. There are people in this queue who had applied for certfication in 2001. Now imagine waiting that long for the first step.
2. Immigrant Visa application - The US Department of State allocates a visa number to the individual.
3. Adjustment of Status - The US Citizenship and formally grants permanat resident status
The whole process can take 3 to 10 years..There are people waiting to be sure of their status for even more than that. No wonder people are coming over the border rather than waiting in this hell. Some of these people have come together to find the organization http://immigrationvoice.org/. The goals include reduced waiting time for green card applications,increased numbers for employment based green cards, ability to get certain benefits if the wait time exceeds 5 years.
