satyasaich
04-09 11:52 AM
Current crisis in UK is just one example, and i'm not surprised to see "slow bleed" approach.
It's up to individual situation and decision what to do next
Gandhi was never an immigrant and was in SA for solving a legal case on a temporary contract. He was always wanting to go back to India but because of the conditions of Indians, he was urged to stay back and help them, he actually went back in between and again came back to SA for a more organized effort.
The situation now is different. The Durbin Grassely bill lobbyists are basically doing what has been happening in UK where local population do not want Asian immigrants taking high paying challenging jobs in their own soil. They don't seem to care if these jobs go away because the effect will be long term and as such it is a known fact that in these days, we seldom see the immigrant community having a good cooperation, every immigrant feels that one less immigrant, it is good for him.
This has been happening in every country where highly skilled migrants take job positions in countries like Aus, NZ, UK, Germany etc..
The US system is harder to crack for anti immigrants than these countries. So they follow this slow bleed approach. On the long run their objectives will be met though it would force out high skilled jobs abroad.
One good thing is that developing nations must capitulate on this and make their labor laws good and also copyright laws and patent laws so that innovation and products are developed in developing nations and so called developed nations will bleed technology and innovation.
It's up to individual situation and decision what to do next
Gandhi was never an immigrant and was in SA for solving a legal case on a temporary contract. He was always wanting to go back to India but because of the conditions of Indians, he was urged to stay back and help them, he actually went back in between and again came back to SA for a more organized effort.
The situation now is different. The Durbin Grassely bill lobbyists are basically doing what has been happening in UK where local population do not want Asian immigrants taking high paying challenging jobs in their own soil. They don't seem to care if these jobs go away because the effect will be long term and as such it is a known fact that in these days, we seldom see the immigrant community having a good cooperation, every immigrant feels that one less immigrant, it is good for him.
This has been happening in every country where highly skilled migrants take job positions in countries like Aus, NZ, UK, Germany etc..
The US system is harder to crack for anti immigrants than these countries. So they follow this slow bleed approach. On the long run their objectives will be met though it would force out high skilled jobs abroad.
One good thing is that developing nations must capitulate on this and make their labor laws good and also copyright laws and patent laws so that innovation and products are developed in developing nations and so called developed nations will bleed technology and innovation.
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09-15 09:49 AM
Redcard,
Life is what you make it. No one force anyone to come to this country on VISA and work and be In GC line. Things happen in life. The way you are talking is as if whole world will collapse if you don’t get green card. No one would die because of that. Grow up and move on in life. This is just a minor obstacle in life. Smart intelligent people can make money and have a good life any where in the world. Probably you would face lot more challenge in life than this green card issue, which I am sure you will give your best to overcome. Don’t make this GC a big deal in your life. :)
I mean the way we talk on these forums are as if all our careers along with our family life will be finished before we reach 30-32 if we don’t get green card. Come on man, so many people faced so many disasters from WW1-2 to flood to hurricanes where they lost everything and still moved on to do great things in life and here we are depressed because of this GC?
Its very interesting to read about people’s different perspective about same thing we are all after.. lets ask ourselves.. honestly why we do want GC and I am sure we all would have multiple reasons for this in our subconscious but would not like to bring it to forefront because it would only undermine our own ability to fight it or make life more stressful.. but end of the day we all want this card.. for me I want it mainly for security and peace of mind…lets look at the different situations.. these might be extreme but we all might have thought about these situations atleast at some point in the recent past… .. and especially the people in the seventh year
1. You are in your seventh year… and you loose you job….what is the first thought that comes to your mind.. I got to pack and leave .. pack your home of seven years and all your possessions you collected, in two suitcases of 50lbs each and leave…forget the Flat Screen TV,, forget all the electronics and the two cars you love ... just list them in craigslist …
2. You have home which you bought with so much pride…what do you do? ..List it.. make a desperate sale in this falling market.. loose a ton of money and leave…and don't even talk about all the silk plants..floor lamps.. the furnishing,, they are for the yard sale on the Saturday..
3. You have child whom you love and have plans for them.. love the school.. are an active member in the PTA … all of sudden what you do.. pull them out of school, move them from the only culture and the country they have known the only President they know is Bush and the only national anthem they have learnt is "The Star-Spangled Banner"…to another place where they don’t even understand the language forget the culture, national anthem etc..
4. Think about your spouse.. they have adopted themselves to this lifestyle.. probably felt lonely when you moved here 7 years but now like it.. its time for them to move back…why because your don’t have a GC
5. Forget the Golf and Tennis you enjoy so much here …it was all a very good dream..
1. You are educated.. have a masters, have a professional degree.. but have been in the same position and department because of your long wait for GC, what happens… the fresh college graduate or the dumb blond who joined two years back and whom you taught how to log into the network is now your peer and you are still on the same desk doing the same job getting the 2% raise and working even more hard..so that you can keep you job..with a new dumb boss.. who thinks you are so dumb that you have been in the same job for so long time..
2. All your batchmates are doing great..some of them are now sweating to be VP’s having risen by changing jobs …. You are still years away from that situation.. what do you do.. stop attending alumni meets and envy the mails in your yahoo groups from people..
3. Seven years in US.. you have made your professional contacts.. and have a social network.. in which you invested your time and effort.. loose your job in the seventh year.. and all these contacts are nothing but an occasional international long distance call in future..
Last but not the least… flight back home to your country is not going to be as smooth as the flight to US was seven years back.. back home look for a job..learn the whole new professional culture …and then set up a new home,,new school for kids….why because we could not get a GC.. which was not in our control.. and because some stupid insane guy sitting in cave 10K miles away decided to terrorize the people in America in 2001.. and make life difficult for all the people..including people in H1...
We might all go back to our home country one day.. but the ride back home would be much more pleasant and happier of a choice we made and not because we did not get a GC…
Good Luck and lets keep up the effort... :)
Life is what you make it. No one force anyone to come to this country on VISA and work and be In GC line. Things happen in life. The way you are talking is as if whole world will collapse if you don’t get green card. No one would die because of that. Grow up and move on in life. This is just a minor obstacle in life. Smart intelligent people can make money and have a good life any where in the world. Probably you would face lot more challenge in life than this green card issue, which I am sure you will give your best to overcome. Don’t make this GC a big deal in your life. :)
I mean the way we talk on these forums are as if all our careers along with our family life will be finished before we reach 30-32 if we don’t get green card. Come on man, so many people faced so many disasters from WW1-2 to flood to hurricanes where they lost everything and still moved on to do great things in life and here we are depressed because of this GC?
Its very interesting to read about people’s different perspective about same thing we are all after.. lets ask ourselves.. honestly why we do want GC and I am sure we all would have multiple reasons for this in our subconscious but would not like to bring it to forefront because it would only undermine our own ability to fight it or make life more stressful.. but end of the day we all want this card.. for me I want it mainly for security and peace of mind…lets look at the different situations.. these might be extreme but we all might have thought about these situations atleast at some point in the recent past… .. and especially the people in the seventh year
1. You are in your seventh year… and you loose you job….what is the first thought that comes to your mind.. I got to pack and leave .. pack your home of seven years and all your possessions you collected, in two suitcases of 50lbs each and leave…forget the Flat Screen TV,, forget all the electronics and the two cars you love ... just list them in craigslist …
2. You have home which you bought with so much pride…what do you do? ..List it.. make a desperate sale in this falling market.. loose a ton of money and leave…and don't even talk about all the silk plants..floor lamps.. the furnishing,, they are for the yard sale on the Saturday..
3. You have child whom you love and have plans for them.. love the school.. are an active member in the PTA … all of sudden what you do.. pull them out of school, move them from the only culture and the country they have known the only President they know is Bush and the only national anthem they have learnt is "The Star-Spangled Banner"…to another place where they don’t even understand the language forget the culture, national anthem etc..
4. Think about your spouse.. they have adopted themselves to this lifestyle.. probably felt lonely when you moved here 7 years but now like it.. its time for them to move back…why because your don’t have a GC
5. Forget the Golf and Tennis you enjoy so much here …it was all a very good dream..
1. You are educated.. have a masters, have a professional degree.. but have been in the same position and department because of your long wait for GC, what happens… the fresh college graduate or the dumb blond who joined two years back and whom you taught how to log into the network is now your peer and you are still on the same desk doing the same job getting the 2% raise and working even more hard..so that you can keep you job..with a new dumb boss.. who thinks you are so dumb that you have been in the same job for so long time..
2. All your batchmates are doing great..some of them are now sweating to be VP’s having risen by changing jobs …. You are still years away from that situation.. what do you do.. stop attending alumni meets and envy the mails in your yahoo groups from people..
3. Seven years in US.. you have made your professional contacts.. and have a social network.. in which you invested your time and effort.. loose your job in the seventh year.. and all these contacts are nothing but an occasional international long distance call in future..
Last but not the least… flight back home to your country is not going to be as smooth as the flight to US was seven years back.. back home look for a job..learn the whole new professional culture …and then set up a new home,,new school for kids….why because we could not get a GC.. which was not in our control.. and because some stupid insane guy sitting in cave 10K miles away decided to terrorize the people in America in 2001.. and make life difficult for all the people..including people in H1...
We might all go back to our home country one day.. but the ride back home would be much more pleasant and happier of a choice we made and not because we did not get a GC…
Good Luck and lets keep up the effort... :)
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06-30 12:38 PM
this is preposteruos, i was never denied entry on a train or bus just because i am asian, usa is much better country when it comes to racism than most of the asian countries (including india),
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02-23 08:08 AM
Thank you to both of you for responding. I entered in to US 5 years ago and i am here since then.
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Keep in mind that 485 eligibility is not just tied to employment but also FBI name checks etc. Do you think USCIS will keep on doing name-checks every other year, or issue EVL's every other year if/when they see for instance, an address change?
On that point (and back to the original purpose of this thread), I called up USCIS to check on the status on my "pre-adjudication". The customer service rep asked me why I had called up when my priority date was not current (!) and I explained that it was because I had only received a fingerprint notice once and that was in Dec 2007; also it was in connection with my EAD application, as I remember it...how can this be if all applications have been preadjudicated. However, I was surprised when the customer service rep informed that my fingerprints had been updated in Mar 2009 and were valid till Mar 2010! When I mentioned that I had not gone in for any fingerprinting since Dec 2007, she even questioned whether I was saying that those were not my fingerprints and someone else had posed as me!! After that I didn't feel like disputing her anymore! She also told me that my application had been "preadjudicated". Has anyone else seen this happen??
I am wondering if this is indicative of the fact that USCIS does not want to waste any money reprocessing fingerprints, FBI name checks etc multiple times in connection with applications that are waiting for priority dates to become current.
On that point (and back to the original purpose of this thread), I called up USCIS to check on the status on my "pre-adjudication". The customer service rep asked me why I had called up when my priority date was not current (!) and I explained that it was because I had only received a fingerprint notice once and that was in Dec 2007; also it was in connection with my EAD application, as I remember it...how can this be if all applications have been preadjudicated. However, I was surprised when the customer service rep informed that my fingerprints had been updated in Mar 2009 and were valid till Mar 2010! When I mentioned that I had not gone in for any fingerprinting since Dec 2007, she even questioned whether I was saying that those were not my fingerprints and someone else had posed as me!! After that I didn't feel like disputing her anymore! She also told me that my application had been "preadjudicated". Has anyone else seen this happen??
I am wondering if this is indicative of the fact that USCIS does not want to waste any money reprocessing fingerprints, FBI name checks etc multiple times in connection with applications that are waiting for priority dates to become current.
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11-15 09:35 AM
Hello Guys,
I need your advice here. Six month ago i joined one of the many blood suckers -Desi cosulting company in new jersey. As you all know, they ask me to sign their contract in which its mention that if i leave their company before 1 year then i need to pay them 15k. Thy also charge me 3k for my H1-B which i am still paying everymonth from my paycheck and we have 70/30. In just six months i am so much fed up with them. These people are so rude...always show their arrogance over phone. I have no libarity to find job by myself. They always looking for higher pay rate sp that their big money tummy get filled up.and i also feel that they didnt told me the right pay rate for the project i am working on right now.
I really want to leave them, Even before 12 months. Is there any importance of that contract letter i signed with them?. Can they Sue me? What are my options? Please suggest me.....i am in stress.
Thnx
If you are unhappy with this employer, you always have a choice of finding a different one, but there is no guarantee that the other one is also not a blood sucker. This situation will continue until you depend on the consulting companies (especially DESI) for your H1B and GC needs.
The best option is to find a full time job with a reputed company and stick with them until your GC is completed or until you get to the point where you can use AC21, nowadays lot of companies are processing H1. Check the visa database to find the information regarding the employer you are interested in.
Don�t just choose the employer based on the attracting benefits they offer. Conducting some due diligence will land you at the right company.
BTW, what do you mean by �you have no liberty to find a job�? All you need is internet and a phone to talk to people.
Lot of people including myself has been through this nightmare, believe me it�s not so difficult.
Good Luck!
I need your advice here. Six month ago i joined one of the many blood suckers -Desi cosulting company in new jersey. As you all know, they ask me to sign their contract in which its mention that if i leave their company before 1 year then i need to pay them 15k. Thy also charge me 3k for my H1-B which i am still paying everymonth from my paycheck and we have 70/30. In just six months i am so much fed up with them. These people are so rude...always show their arrogance over phone. I have no libarity to find job by myself. They always looking for higher pay rate sp that their big money tummy get filled up.and i also feel that they didnt told me the right pay rate for the project i am working on right now.
I really want to leave them, Even before 12 months. Is there any importance of that contract letter i signed with them?. Can they Sue me? What are my options? Please suggest me.....i am in stress.
Thnx
If you are unhappy with this employer, you always have a choice of finding a different one, but there is no guarantee that the other one is also not a blood sucker. This situation will continue until you depend on the consulting companies (especially DESI) for your H1B and GC needs.
The best option is to find a full time job with a reputed company and stick with them until your GC is completed or until you get to the point where you can use AC21, nowadays lot of companies are processing H1. Check the visa database to find the information regarding the employer you are interested in.
Don�t just choose the employer based on the attracting benefits they offer. Conducting some due diligence will land you at the right company.
BTW, what do you mean by �you have no liberty to find a job�? All you need is internet and a phone to talk to people.
Lot of people including myself has been through this nightmare, believe me it�s not so difficult.
Good Luck!
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05-12 11:32 AM
My heart really goes out for Neelima and her family! I also faced this kind of situation in my office to a lesser extent.
I am working as a permanent employee for a company and there are very few Asians working in this company. One of the business unit is outsourced to India and in our annual off-site meeting, the manager of that business unit sarcastically mentioned in the meeting infront of all the employees, how people in India lie about their resumes and how Indians are inefficient etc. etc. I felt so angry, sad and immediately walked out of the meeting.
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Hey guys,
I have a question to all of you...
AILA prepares the lawsuit and some (probably most) of the lawyers are supporting that.
For several days I keep hearing that WHEN you file (in July) is not important and I am wondering how that could be true...
I understand that the people who filed on July 2nd are beneficiaries of this but in my mind, everybody who files after falls under a different category because technically they would file after the revised bulletin was announced therefore have no argument. I understand that everybody else prepared (legal fees, medical exam and so on) and they are affected even if they didn't file but I am wondering how that can be justification enough after the dates (retrogression) were announced.
I am trying to understand why they say that it does not matter when you file. They need more people to back this up or is just so they can justify billing you for their work...
Is just scary, how many people play with our hopes and I need to understand if this is just to serve somebody's interests or it is what it is .
Please post your 2 cents ...
Thanks !
I have a question to all of you...
AILA prepares the lawsuit and some (probably most) of the lawyers are supporting that.
For several days I keep hearing that WHEN you file (in July) is not important and I am wondering how that could be true...
I understand that the people who filed on July 2nd are beneficiaries of this but in my mind, everybody who files after falls under a different category because technically they would file after the revised bulletin was announced therefore have no argument. I understand that everybody else prepared (legal fees, medical exam and so on) and they are affected even if they didn't file but I am wondering how that can be justification enough after the dates (retrogression) were announced.
I am trying to understand why they say that it does not matter when you file. They need more people to back this up or is just so they can justify billing you for their work...
Is just scary, how many people play with our hopes and I need to understand if this is just to serve somebody's interests or it is what it is .
Please post your 2 cents ...
Thanks !
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10-11 03:48 PM
BharatPremi,
Looks like we are in minority :)
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"Oye, PavanV", Do not worry. I believe in "Sawa Lakh se Ek Ladaun Tab Gobind Singh Naam Kahaun". :)
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gcpool
05-24 03:56 PM
Since the application is no longer based on an employer, then I guess you can change jobs any time. And so you dont need AC21.
Its totally based on the applicant. You have to earn the points to get a greater possibility to get it approved (Do an MS, get higher score in TOFEL, more experience in the US and yes hope your sibling gets his/her GC before you)
Also you dont need to deal with incompetent lawyers and the employers no longer have control over you.
The question that arises is that an application is valid for 3 years then its deemed denied. Does that mean you cant try again because you did not make it in the quota for that time period. And does it mean you have to go back.
Please correct me if I am wrong
Its totally based on the applicant. You have to earn the points to get a greater possibility to get it approved (Do an MS, get higher score in TOFEL, more experience in the US and yes hope your sibling gets his/her GC before you)
Also you dont need to deal with incompetent lawyers and the employers no longer have control over you.
The question that arises is that an application is valid for 3 years then its deemed denied. Does that mean you cant try again because you did not make it in the quota for that time period. And does it mean you have to go back.
Please correct me if I am wrong
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qasleuth
05-02 02:56 PM
What is this OBC battle you are talking about?
It has nothing to do with immigration but a bane of India.
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amitga
05-26 03:04 PM
There are better chances for this bill to pass, since this is tied with the family immigration. We should put full energy to get this bill passed and start a funding campaign ASAP for this bill.
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04-02 01:03 PM
Then call senator grassley and ask these questions and prove you have the BALLS!!!! Otherwise you know what it means.
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